tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15002338.post7638933441059040279..comments2024-01-05T16:33:57.871-08:00Comments on Kevin Babbles: Do It for MartinKevinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11725773875670192146noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15002338.post-6502958009657534622012-01-18T00:13:17.658-08:002012-01-18T00:13:17.658-08:00Oh, I totally agree, Kristen. I had initially writ...Oh, I totally agree, Kristen. I had initially written three more paragraphs to elaborate on my opinions on race, then decided I was putting too much attention on race when what I wanted to talk about something other than that. So I shorthanded that aspect to the point of looking stupid. Whoops.<br /><br />Perception is reality, so race is "real", regardless of it being a social construction.<br /><br />The thing about Occupy is that the movement is what people make of it. If people think there is not enough racial awareness/sensitivity, they should address it, not abandon the movement altogether. We had a discussion about this at one of our meetings recently, where someone complained about the way white protesters were talking about the need to go to black communities to empower them, which came off as kind of condescending in their approach. In the end, people realized we need to discuss these issues, because it stemmed from ignorance (and messages we've learned since we were born) - and if we're going to get anywhere we need to talk through them.<br /><br />For the most part, I don't see some of the problems talked about in other Occupations in LA, but perhaps that's b/c of our demographics and the fact that the majority of the participants here are non-white. They even have procedures to make sure minority/female/queer voices are well represented. At times, I wonder if it gets a little too affirmative action-y, but I also respect the collective will to disrupt the hierarchy society has established. We don't want to defer to that system just because that's what we know. And to be clear, I as a white male don't feel discriminated against by anything in Occupy. We're all allies, and I genuinely feel that energy with this group of people.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11725773875670192146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15002338.post-77669180383875198552012-01-17T18:09:45.168-08:002012-01-17T18:09:45.168-08:00Hey thanks for bringing this up. It is incredibly ...Hey thanks for bringing this up. It is incredibly important to note that MLK was about more than just civil rights. Last year I was involved with organizing a day of service, and we struggled a lot because we wanted to do something with a deeper impact that hit on his three tenets of anti-racism, poverty alleviation and peace. Having kids doodle some pictures to give to senior citizens just seemed kinda lame..<br />That being said, I don't agree that race should be dropped in the conversation. Race may be a social construct, but the impact of racism is very real in many people's lives.<br />I've been reading some articles on racialicious that critique the privilege of the movement: http://www.racialicious.com/2012/01/09/why-occupy-wall-street-matters-to-me-and-how-it-can-continue-to-matter/#more-19764 <br /><br />Anyway, point is agree with you, but somethings are just more nuanced.KirstBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051062725465435713noreply@blogger.com